Monday 29 October 2018

Gender Equality Should Not Mean Gender Sameness


In each part of the world, there are positive and negative aspects to the mainstream culture. Every culture is surely more pleasing to God in some ways than most other cultures, and also more displeasing to Him in some ways than most other cultures.

This is certainly true of Western culture. In some ways this culture is better than most, and in some ways it is worse than most.

As far as attitudes to gender are concerned, there is some of each of these things in Western culture. There are strengths and weaknesses in the attitudes of mainstream Westerners to gender.

GENDER EQUALITY IN WESTERN CULTURE

Firstly, I think that modern Western culture is among the best in the world in its attitude to gender equality.

Mainstream Westerners rightly believe that men and women are equal in value and dignity. And they are also very critical of men who take advantage of women in any way. It is considered unacceptable and taboo to do this.

That is not to say that Western society is perfect in its attitude to gender equality. Far from it. But it is nevertheless a lot better than many parts of the world.

In more than a few countries women are typically viewed by men as somewhat inferior human beings, and men often consider it acceptable to take advantage of women. They use their authority over women as a means of gaining things for themselves.

Mainstream Western culture has no sympathy for this sort of thinking. And so it is surely more pleasing to God on the issue of gender equality than many parts of the world.

LIVING OUT GENDER EQUALITY IN WESTERN CULTURE

Although Western culture is strong on gender equality, it goes seriously wrong in the way it attempts to live out this equality.

Huge numbers of modern Westerners seem to have the idea that gender equality means gender sameness. They seem to be forever trying to make men and women the same in everything.

If, for example, there are more men than women in some job or other, many people will automatically assume that something is wrong. They don’t stop to ask if there might be a good reason why fewer women do that job. Instead, they will immediately try to do or say something that will lead to the same number of men and women doing the job.

It is not a huge exaggeration to say that many in the feminist movement today are not just trying to get rid of gender inequality, but they are trying to get rid of gender itself.

It makes no sense to think that gender equality means gender sameness

Despite the ideas of many in Western countries today, it makes no sense at all to think that gender equality means gender sameness. Men and women have been created different by God, and each gender has various strengths and weaknesses. To try to force a uniformity on human beings by eradicating gender differences is to oppose the will of the Lord.

Instead, these differences should be celebrated. Where women tend to be better at something than men, we should not try to engineer society so that the same number of men do that thing. And where men tend to be better at something than women, again, we should not try to force the culture to fit with some politically correct idea.

Men and women are absolutely equal in God’s sight. But to think that this means that they are not different makes no sense at all. It is the result of confused thinking.

BREASTFEEDING BABIES

In some ways, the attitudes of mainstream Westerners on this issue are really quite disturbing.

Take looking after babies as an example. Most women become mothers, and we should all want babies to be treated as well as possible.

As God has designed things, babies are supposed to drink milk from their mothers’ breasts. Scientific studies have shown that for a baby breast milk is the most healthy, and that feeding from the mother helps to create a bond between mother and baby.

Even without any science, however, it should be obvious that these things are true. Babies feeding from their mothers’ breasts is clearly part of God’s created order.

It is true that exceptional situations arise when there is a good reason for a woman not to breastfeed. Some women are physically unable to do this, and sometimes a woman has to get a job away from her baby so that she can earn money to live on.

Nevertheless, for a woman not to breastfeed her baby should be a last resort. Any parent should want their baby to get off to the best start in life, and part of this should be for the baby to breastfeed from the mother if at all possible.

In Western culture, however, this important aspect of a baby’s life is often neglected so that politically correct ideas about gender sameness can be pursued. There are many women who abandon their babies for large parts of the day so that they can further their careers. And instead of sharply criticising women who do this, and the men who support it, Western society tends to actually encourage women in this practice. To put it bluntly, aiming for gender sameness in Western countries is often at the price of treating babies badly.

But it gets even worse. The Western media is full of commentators who arrogantly judge other parts of the world for not having enough women in high level jobs. However, some of the reason why women in these parts of the world don’t do these jobs is because they have chosen to do something more important. They prioritise breastfeeding their babies instead of selfishly pursuing a career at the expense of their children. The arrogance and hypocrisy of many in modern Western culture is of a very high order indeed.

HUSBANDS HAVING AUTHORITY OVER WIVES

Another way in which the gender-sameness attitudes of mainstream Western culture contradict the Christian faith is in the relationship of husbands and wives.

According to the Bible, husbands have a degree of authority over their wives.

In Ephesians 5:22-25, for example, the apostle Paul writes: 
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, just as Christ is the head of the church, His body, and is its Saviour. 24 Now, as the church submits to Christ, so wives must submit to their husbands in everything. 
25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it . . .”
Mainstream Western culture rejects the idea that husbands have authority over their wives. But in doing so they are rejecting what God has designed.

Misunderstanding the authority of husbands over wives

I think one reason why many Westerners are so opposed to husbands having authority over their wives is because they misunderstand the nature of this authority. They look at examples of authority in the world at large, and they wrongly assume that Christians believe that the authority of husbands is supposed to be similar to these examples.

There are various typical characteristics of authority that we see in the world around us:

To begin with, authority figures are usually more important than those under their authority. For example, if the CEO of a company spends a week off sick, that might cause real problems for the other workers. This person is such a key decision-maker that doing without them for a whole week is likely to make life difficult for the others. However, if someone much lower down the authority structure in that company is off sick for a week, the problems caused will very probably be much fewer.

Secondly, authority figures are usually more privileged than those under their authority. For instance, in the workplace a person in authority will almost certainly receive a higher salary than someone under their authority.

Thirdly, authority figures often use those under their authority to serve themselves. For example, bosses will frequently tell their subordinates to do the unpleasant tasks, while avoiding these tasks themselves.

In the world at large, then, we are surrounded by people who have this sort of authority. So, when Christians talk about husbands being in authority over wives, modern Westerners often simply assume that this is the kind of authority we have in mind. Many think we mean that husbands are more important and more privileged than wives, and that it is acceptable for husbands to use their wives for their own advantage. And then they get very offended.

The true nature of the authority of husbands

If the above picture did correctly represent the true nature of the authority of husbands over wives, it would be perfectly reasonable for people to be appalled by it. In reality, however, a proper understanding of husbands’ authority is vastly different from the above picture.

Crucially, the true nature of authority in marriage in no way means that the husband is more important or more privileged than the wife.

There is, in fact, a good parallel to this sort of authority in the Trinity itself. According to the Bible, God the Son is eternally under the authority of God the Father. However, both Father and Son are equal in importance and privilege. And exactly the same is true of the marriage relationship of husband and wife.

This concept of authority without extra importance or privilege is something that modern Westerners find hard to grasp. It goes so against the grain of our culture. Yet this is the true nature of the authority of husbands over their wives.

What is more, whereas worldly authority usually involves taking advantage of the person under authority, the proper authority of the husband does exactly the opposite. The Bible teaches that husbands should not only avoid using their authority in marriage for their own benefit, but that they should actually use this authority to serve their wives!

As we saw above, in Ephesians 5:25 Paul tells his readers: 
“Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it . . .” 
Note carefully what Paul says here. He tells husbands to love their wives as Christ loved the church and gave Himself for it. How did Christ do this? He volunteered to be crucified! In other words, Paul is saying that husbands should be enormously self-sacrificial in the way they love and serve their wives. Using authority in this manner is totally different from the standard pattern of authority that we see in the world at large. It turns the world’s values on their head.

When we recognise the true nature of the authority of husbands over their wives, it should be clear that there is nothing abusive about this authority. Nor is there anything unequal. It is just that the husband and the wife have different roles in the marriage.

Husbands abusing their authority

Of course, it is true that many husbands around the world abuse the authority they have over their wives. They use their wives for self-advantage.

If a husband persists in doing this, however, it would surely be better for him not to have any authority in marriage. Abusing authority to manipulate anyone is a serious matter indeed. 

Nevertheless, if a husband doesn’t abuse his authority, it is good that he has it. And when a husband uses his authority to serve his wife, it works out very well for her. Christians should therefore oppose the gender-sameness attitudes of mainstream Western culture towards marriage.

CHRISTIAN ATTITUDES TO GENDER SAMENESS

It is a fact, of course, that in a great many ways men and women really are the same. Physically we have more in common than not, and in spiritual, mental and emotional qualities too we seem to be mostly the same.

It is also true that cultural factors are often morally neutral, and we should show flexibility in our approach to gender in various cultures.

For example, in modern Western culture blue is a colour that has a tradition of being attached to boys, and pink has a tradition of being attached to girls. In this culture, it makes sense for Christians to fit in with this way of doing things.

However, in a culture that does things differently it would be right to have a different custom. If there were a culture somewhere in the world that connected girls with blue and boys with pink, Christians should follow suit.

There is nothing in God’s created order itself that attaches blue to boys and pink to girls. This is just a cultural thing. And in many morally neutral issues like this, we should show some flexibility.

Yet in areas where God has created a difference between male and female, Christians should not cave in to pressure to make the genders the same. Instead, we should be unembarrassed about opposing this distortion of God’s created order.

And when modern Westerners dress up issues of gender sameness under the appearance of gender equality, we must not be fooled. We need to understand clearly that these are separate things.

CHRISTIANS SHOULD OPPOSE GENDER INEQUALITY

Finally, although Christians should resist the attempts of Western culture to make men and women the same, we should be as outspoken as anyone against real gender inequality. Even in Western countries gender inequality does exist in various forms, and we should be second to none in our opposition to it.

I have already mentioned the example of husbands abusing their authority to take advantage of their wives. Sadly, this happens a lot. Christians should condemn this strongly and without hesitation.

Something else that is wrong is for women to be paid less than men for doing the same job. Nothing in Scripture supports this sort of inequality.

As far as it opposes real gender inequality, Christians should side firmly with the feminist movement.

However, feminism in its current form goes far beyond opposing gender inequality. It is a loud voice supporting various forms of immorality and is at the forefront of promoting gender sameness. In these respects, Christians should vigorously oppose this movement.


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Monday 22 October 2018

1 John 2:19 and Apostasy

One area of disagreement among Christians concerns falling away from the faith, also known as apostasy. Some say that God will never allow a born-again believer to apostatise and finally end up in hell. Others say that this does sometimes happen.

Personally, I much prefer the view that genuine Christians do sometimes apostatise. I think this view fits best with the overall teaching of the Bible.

A SUPPOSED PROOF TEXT

One verse that is often said to prove that God never allows apostasy is 1 John 2:19. Here John states: 
“They left us, but they did not belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us. But they left, so that it would be made clear that none of them belong to us.” 
Those who say that God never allows genuine Christians to apostatise often argue in the following way about this verse:

John is referring here to a recent split in his Christian circle, when some left the circle. He says that those who left would have remained if they had genuinely belonged to the circle. This shows that those who left were never genuine, born-again Christians. And, by implication, it shows that anyone who is a genuine Christian will certainly remain in the faith. Therefore, God will never allow a genuine, born-again believer to fall away and lose salvation.

POTENTIAL WAYS OF INTERPRETING JOHN’S WORDS

It is true that in this verse John is referring to a recent split in his Christian circle, when some false believers left. And it is true too that he is saying that those who left would have remained if they had genuinely belonged.

Nevertheless, the above interpretation is not the only way the words can be taken. In fact, there are two potential ways of interpreting this verse.

Interpretation 1

Firstly, there is the interpretation given above, of those who say that the verse shows that God never allows the apostasy of genuine believers. We can call this interpretation 1.

Under this interpretation, when John says, “they did not belong to us,” he means that they were never genuine believers. We could use additions in square brackets to show what John means under this interpretation: 
“They left us, but they did not belong to us [at any point in time]. For if they had belonged to us [at any point in time], they would have remained with us. But they left, so that it would be made clear that none of them belong to us.” 
In interpretation 1, John is doing the following:

(a) He is telling his readers that the people who left his circle were false Christians at the time they left.

(b) He is telling his readers that these people are still false Christians.

(c) He is telling his readers that these people were always false Christians.

(d) He is implying that genuine Christians do not fall away from the faith.

Interpretation 2

Secondly, there is the interpretation of this verse that I take. We can call this interpretation 2.

Under this interpretation, when John says, “they did not belong to us,” he isn’t saying that these people were never genuine believers. Rather, he just means that they were not genuine believers at the time they left. We could use additions in square brackets to show what John means under this interpretation: 
“They left us, but they did not belong to us [at the time they left]. For if they had belonged to us [at the time they left], they would have remained with us. But they left, so that it would be made clear that none of them belong to us.” 
In interpretation 2, John is doing the same as (a) and (b) above:

(a) He is telling his readers that the people who left his circle were false Christians at the time they left.

(b) He is telling his readers that these people are still false Christians.

However, in this interpretation John is not doing (c) or (d). He is not saying anything about whether or not those who left his circle were ever genuine believers. And he is not implying anything about whether or not God ever allows genuine believers to apostatise.

WEIGHING UP THESE INTERPRETATIONS

So which of these interpretations is the right one? Is John telling his readers that those who left never genuinely belonged to his circle, as in interpretation 1? Or is he telling them that those who left didn’t genuinely belong to his circle at the time they left, as in interpretation 2?

Answering an objection to interpretation 2

To begin with, I am sure that many would want to object to interpretation 2 in this way:

When John says of those who left, “they did not belong to us,” he means that they were not genuine Christians. And for him to tell his readers that these people were not genuine Christians at the time they left, as in interpretation 2, is too obvious to bother mentioning. So he must be telling his readers that these people had never been genuine Christians, as in interpretation 1.

It is true that when John says of those who left, “they did not belong to us,” he means that they were not genuine Christians. But I would suggest that it does make sense to think that he would have bothered to tell his readers that those who left were not genuine believers at the time they left:

One of John’s aims in this letter seems to be to warn his readers about how bad those who left really were and are. Reading between the lines, it seems that his readers may well have thought that those who left were genuine Christians who had some moderately significant disagreements with those they left behind, but nothing more serious than that. However, in reality those who left were nothing other than heretics. So John wants to make his readers aware of how seriously wrong these people really were and still are (1 John 2:18, 22-23, 26; 4:1-6).

I think we could paraphrase the verse in this way: 
“You need to understand the truth about those who left us. Don’t go thinking that they are genuine brothers and sisters in Christ, and that we are really on the same side. They left because they believe heresy. These are bad people. They are false Christians. If they were genuine brothers and sisters, they wouldn’t have left us for the reasons they did.” 
I think this is the information that John is aiming to convey in this verse. And if it is, it makes perfect sense that he would tell his readers that those who left were not genuine believers at the time they left, as in interpretation 2.

Please note that I am not arguing here that interpretation 2 should be preferred over interpretation 1. I am simply arguing that the above objection to interpretation 2 can quite easily be answered.

Nothing else strongly supports interpretation 1 or 2

There is nothing else in the verse itself or its immediate context that counts as significant support for interpretation 1 or interpretation 2.

There is one point that perhaps counts as slight support for interpretation 1. Under interpretation 2, we have to understand the unexpressed time restriction “at the time they left” to apply to “they did not belong to us.” Under interpretation 1, however, there is no unexpressed time restriction that needs to be understood. It is possibly slightly easier not to have to understand an unexpressed time restriction.

On the other hand, there is one point that perhaps counts as slight support for interpretation 2. Under interpretation 1, part of what John is doing is making a comment on the status of those who left at a time before they left. However, we might have expected him more probably to have limited his focus to the time they left and after then.

These, however, are minor points. And in any case, they seem to cancel each other out.

CONCLUSION

Basically, if we take account only of the verse itself and its immediate context, 1 John 2:19 can easily be read either according to interpretation 1 or according to interpretation 2. John could potentially, as in interpretation 1, be implying that it is not possible for a genuine believer to fall away and be lost. Or he could potentially, as in interpretation 2, be simply saying that those who left his circle were not genuine Christians at the time they left.

Furthermore, even if we take interpretation 2, and understand John to be focusing on the time the heretics left, this says nothing about whether or not God ever allows genuine believers to fall away and lose salvation.

To reach a firm conclusion about whether 1 John as a whole teaches that God ever allows genuine Christians to apostatise, we would need to take all the letter into account. But I don’t intend to do that in this article.

My aim in the article has been very limited and very simple. All I have been trying to do is show that in itself, and before taking other passages into account, 1 John 2:19 is inconclusive on whether God allows genuine Christians to fall away and lose salvation.

As I have noted, there are many who use this verse as a proof text for the view that He never allows apostasy. This, however, is a big mistake. The verse does not even come close to proving this.


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Tuesday 2 October 2018

Does Ephesians 2:19-20 Prove That God No Longer Gives the Gift of Prophecy?


Ephesians 2:19-20 is a passage that is often said to prove that God no longer gives the gift of prophecy.

In this passage, the apostle Paul, speaking to Gentile Christians, states:
19 So then, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of God’s household, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with the Messiah Jesus Himself as the cornerstone.”
The argument

Christians who claim that God no longer gives the gift of prophecy frequently argue in the following way about this passage:

Paul uses the metaphor of a foundation to describe the apostles and prophets of the church, and he implies that the rest of the church is built on this foundation. A foundation is the first part of a building to be built. Therefore, the fact that Paul uses this picture to describe the apostles and prophets shows that they had a role only in the early stages of the church. This must mean that God no longer gives the gift of prophecy.

Not the only possible interpretation

This is not a forced or unnatural way of taking Paul’s words. Nevertheless, it isn’t the only way they can be interpreted, as I will argue below.

Preliminary points

Before I give an alternative interpretation, I want to make some preliminary points about this passage. I won’t try to defend them, because in all of them I agree with at least the majority of those who say that God no longer gives the gift of prophecy.

(1) We should understand the foundation in this passage to consist of the apostles and prophets (and Jesus). It is not something that is laid by the apostles and prophets.

(2) Although Paul doesn’t refer to the church explicitly in these verses, that is what he is talking about. And he is saying that the apostles and prophets (and Jesus) form a foundation, on which the rest of the church is built.

(3) The apostles and prophets here are two separate groups, as in Ephesians 4:11 and 1 Corinthians 12:29. The text is not referring to a single group of Christians, each of whom is both an apostle and a prophet.

That is not to say that no Christians fell into both categories. But basically, Paul is referring here to two groups of Christians.

(4) The prophets in view are Christian prophets, not Old Testament prophets.

(5) The foundation is apostles and prophets who ministered in the early decades of the church. The idea is not that apostles and prophets who minister throughout the church age are a foundation.

(6) Although in the Greek text there is a definite article before “apostles” but not before “prophets,” “prophets” should be regarded as a definite noun. The text could just as easily have been written, “the apostles and the prophets.”

(7) From other passages of Scripture, I accept that there have been no apostles, in the full sense of the word, since the original apostles. I also believe that Ephesians 2:20 is referring only to apostles in the full sense, not to any lesser sort of apostles (whether or not lesser apostles have ever existed). I therefore believe that this verse has in view all the apostles, in the full sense, that there have ever been and that they all lived in the first decades of the church age.

(8) As a related point, I accept that Ephesians 4:11-13 doesn’t prove that apostles and prophets exist throughout the church age.

These are the preliminary points, and in all of them I agree with at least the majority of those who say that the gift of prophecy has ceased.

The alternative interpretation

Let’s turn now to the alternative interpretation.

I believe that this is the scenario underlying this passage:

Apostles, in the full sense of the word, had a role only in the early stages of the church. Prophets exist throughout the church age (although much more commonly at some times than at others). But crucially, the most important prophecies were all given in the first decades of the church age, meaning that all the most important prophets lived at that time.

It is entirely plausible that this scenario could be described by saying that the church is built “on the foundation of the apostles and prophets,” as we find in Ephesians 2:20.

Let me now defend this interpretation in a bit more depth.

Biblical metaphors often correspond loosely to reality

To begin with, there is the nature of biblical metaphors to consider.

Those who say that this passage proves that the gift of prophecy has ceased typically take the foundation metaphor in v. 20 in a very precise way. They look at the picture Paul is giving and seem to assume that it must correspond to reality very precisely.

When we look at how the Bible uses metaphors, however, we often find that they don’t correspond precisely to reality.

A good example of this can be seen in Matthew 20:28. Here Jesus says:
“. . . the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.”
In this verse, Jesus’ death is metaphorically described as a ransom for people.

This is an excellent metaphor for illustrating what His death accomplished. Nevertheless, this metaphorical ransom doesn’t correspond to a literal ransom in every respect. A literal ransom has to be paid to someone. Yet if we ask to whom Jesus’ metaphorical ransom was paid, we are demanding too much of the metaphor. There is no one to whom Jesus’ ransom was paid.

This metaphor of ransom, then, corresponds quite loosely to reality. It is a mistake to interpret it too precisely.

Another good example can be found in Hebrews 12:1. Here the author encourages his readers with these words:
“Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a large cloud of witnesses, let us get rid of every weight and the sin that so easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that lies before us . . .”
In this verse, the Christian life is described using the metaphor of a long distance running race.

Again, this is a great metaphor, but we mustn’t demand too much from it. In a literal race we run against competitors. However, in the metaphorical race being described in this verse there are no competitors we run against.

This is another metaphor, then, that corresponds quite loosely to the reality it is describing. And many more similar examples could be given from Scripture.

In view of how biblical metaphors often correspond imprecisely to reality, it is a mistake to simply assume that the metaphor of apostles and prophets as a foundation must be interpreted very technically and precisely. And once we allow that Paul could have used this metaphor loosely, it is easy to fit what he says with prophetic ministry continuing throughout the church age at a lower level than in the first few decades.

The Bible often makes simplifications

Something else we need to take account of is how the Bible often simplifies things. This actually overlaps with the point about loose use of metaphors.

A good example of simplification can be seen in 1 Kings 9:4. In this verse, the LORD says the following to Solomon:
“As for you, if you will walk before Me as your father David walked, with integrity of heart and uprightness . . .”
God says here that David walked with integrity of heart and uprightness.

We know, however, that David was in fact guilty of no less sins than murder and adultery (2 Samuel 11:1-27). And we know too that as a sinful human being he must have sinned in a multitude of other ways too.

In saying that David walked before Him with integrity and uprightness, then, God is making a big simplification.

Another example of a verse that simplifies matters is Matthew 5:42. Here Jesus teaches:
“Give to the person who asks you, and do not turn away from the person who wants to borrow from you.” 
Actually, there are many situations when we shouldn’t give to a person who asks us for something or wants to borrow from us. For example, if someone asks us for money to buy illegal drugs, we should certainly not oblige.

It would be a big mistake to take what Jesus says in this verse precisely. Instead, His words give a general principle that allows for numerous exceptions. Jesus is simplifying things greatly.

The Bible also contains many other similar simplifications.

Given that Scripture often simplifies things, it is wrong to just assume that Paul is not making a simplification in Ephesians 2:19-20. When he says that “the apostles and prophets” are a foundation of the church, we should be open to the possibility that he could be simplifying things somewhat. There could potentially be other, less important prophets, who are not actually part of the foundation.

Paul’s emphasis is on the existence rather than timing of the apostolic and prophetic ministries

Those who say that this passage proves that God no longer gives the gift of prophecy place a lot of weight on the temporal aspect of Paul’s metaphor. They claim that the fact that the apostles and prophets are a foundation, together with the fact that the foundation in a literal building is the first part to be built, shows that the apostles and prophets existed only in the first part of the church age.

However, the metaphor itself encourages us not to emphasize its temporal aspect:

The Greek word underlying “built” in the above translation is epoikodomethentes, which is a past tense participle. The fact that it is a past tense means that some of the non-apostolic and non-prophetic part of the church had already been built on the foundation at the time Ephesians was written.

Yet it is Paul, an apostle, who is writing this. So the apostolic ministry is envisaged as ongoing at the time of writing.

Therefore, it doesn’t make sense to say that the foundation refers to something that is temporally completely before the part that stands on the foundation. Otherwise, how could Paul’s apostolic ministry still be ongoing when there is already a structure standing on the apostolic (and prophetic) foundation?

This shows that temporal factors are not at the heart of what this metaphor is being used to express. Rather, the metaphor places more emphasis on the existence of apostolic and prophetic ministries than on the time of operation of these ministries. That is where the stress lies.



Paul’s focus is on the early stages of the church and not a later time

Not only does Paul place more emphasis on the existence of apostolic and prophetic ministries than on their time of operation, but, even as regards timing, his focus is on the early stages of the church rather than on a later time.

By using the metaphor of a foundation, he is telling his readers that apostles and prophets had key roles in the early stages of the church. However, he is not attempting to comment on the roles, or lack of roles, of apostles and prophets after the early stages. That is not his concern.

Therefore, since Paul’s focus is on the early decades of the church, it would be unwise to use his words to draw any firm conclusions about the place of prophecy after the first decades.

This clause is very brief

Finally, it is important to note how few words Paul uses to form his metaphor of a foundation.

Paul really says very little here, and it would be a mistake to draw confident conclusions from these few words.

Summing up

In the above discussion, I have noted several things.

First, the way that the Bible often uses metaphors loosely makes it easy to think that the metaphor in Ephesians 2:19-20 could be a loose one that allows for the gift of prophecy to continue throughout the church age in a less important way than in the first few decades.

Second, the way that Scripture often simplifies things suggests that “the apostles and prophets” could easily be a simplification meaning the apostles and most important prophets.

Third, the emphasis in the metaphor is more on the existence of apostolic and prophetic ministries than on their time of operation, so it is unwise to use the metaphor to draw firm conclusions about timing.

Fourth, because Paul’s focus is on the first decades of the church, it is unwise to use his words to draw confident conclusions about the place of prophecy after that time.

Fifth, the fact that Paul says so little also makes it unwise to draw firm conclusions.

Given all these points, Ephesians 2:19-20 can easily be interpreted to fit with a scenario in which God still gives the gift of prophecy today. If all the most important prophets lived in the first century, yet God continues to give this gift in our day, there is nothing in these verses that would conflict with this understanding of things.

At the very least, this passage falls far short of proving that God no longer gives the gift of prophecy today.


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